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@XeniaThat sounds confusing. … its not your fault… not the way you’ve phrased it or anything… its just part of the whole account/team/user/workspace/team/project/guest/boards/plan/features/editor/owner/permissions/ confusing challenge of Miro. Wait, what even is a workspace? Is that a ‘team’? Does an upgrade from Consultant to Business mean that one must collapse their multiple workspaces down into one?
@mlanders I agree with those sentiments. The smart diagramming as a “Business” plan only product is pretty agonizing for “Consultant” plan holders… Even weirder, I’m just realizing, is their “smart meetings” being gated off to “Business” only… a lot of the Miro meeting design-facilitators, agile coaches, etc are on the Consultant plan… so… this price-gated feature addition feels SMARTly engineered to force those 1-3 person teams to spend $72-56 / Month. Indeed, a power user ‘consultant’, excited about these tools is less concerned with paying more per month for better features than they are in adding 1-4 seat licenses that they won’t use as they are not a 5 person team. Seems to me they could get rid of the minimum user count for “Business” - then small team Power Users like you and many others would get the features without the overhead of paying for ‘seats’ you don’t use.
@mlandersI kind-of wish these icon libraries were… as you said, part of any paid plan… and that some additional templates were add-on, a la carte, 1-time purchases. And I agree… I imagine many users of these systems design and enterprise arch icon sets are consultants. As much of that work is highly niche/specialized.
@Robert Johnson I actually want to upgrade my plan, for these features, and all the pages for ‘upgrade plan’ are broken for me right now… Sending lot’s of service requests to sound the alarm. I imagine I’m not entirely alone in this experience. https://www.loom.com/share/8bb6f3b9d9aa4dd38a6793d01a2d726c
@IanH Seeing the purple lines in your photo … I’m tempted to think you’re using the MIro mindmap tool… is that the case?
@Aleph Ofosev Exactly! Thanks for explaining that use. :)
@Richard Kasperowski For the win! 🙏
@Tom Fit IMHO, It’s been alluring, for me, from time to time, to think that process engineering or process modeling is the one and only true ‘business design’- and yet, I keep having to remind myself that it seems more true to me, that the full domain of ‘business design’ is much larger, encompassing far many more stakeholders, users, disciplines, tactics, practices, vocabularies… its filled with ultimately much messier processes that need a blend of agility, creativity and high-usability of the shared thinking tools, so as to invite wide adoption and participation. It seems to me, Miro has shot for the much larger much messier bottom of this pyramid while the Lucid Chart and other engineer-first tools are aiming for the top. The result, however, of a power-user first model, is an app that is pretty isolating to just those power users and inaccessible to many others. I suppose, while I love the engineering strength of other tools and definitely share some of your frustrations
@Aleph Ofosev The only UI extension point that allows custom width/height configuration currently is the modal and the bottom panel. @Anthony Roux Is the widgetMenuItems (widget context menu) deprecated/not an option at this point? Can developer open a custom-sized extension tray/menu off of the widget context menu?
@struggystrug Indeed, the web whiteboard product is a standalone, pared-down Miro product and the Miro REST API does not work with it. To create a whole Miro board:You can check this: https://developers.miro.com/reference#board-objectto see that you can automatically create a Miro board from the API and then you can discern its URL (as the Create Board method returns the Board Object and in it the Board ID, and you know the board URL is created by appending that ID to Miro.com/app/board/*for doing what you want- the problem is 2-fold: 1) it’s a full Miro UI…but most problematic, (but I haven’t tested this) it appears that the access policy options you have for the board don’t allow non team members to edit the board, they reserve that only as an option for team members. These “access policy” things can be a little tricky to understand…. But if you’re ok with the first issue here… maybe try and see if there’s access policy configuration that will get guest editing a possibility. @Anth
@Jeff Yearymy first thought is: make a long grid columns being days extending to the right rows are workers - if a person is OUT they do nothing to the board - if they are IN, they move their sticky to the day column matching today’s date this could additionally allow prescheduling (granted, that could become inaccurate as plans change).
@Andrzej Zalewski I believe you’re talking about the ‘templates’ as opposed to plugins (3rd party apps). What would Miro support for C4 modeling look like? New visual components..? New functionality?
@KALiM KHAN I don’t have a precise answer for you. but… I’ve seen a bit of forum traffic on similar education use cases. Here’s some I recall from search. You might find ideas, inspiration, or advisor / collaborators as you scan these posts… :)There’s a whole section of the Miro forum called Educator Community. They’re missing you!find it here Some maybe relevant posts.General education solutions shared: here here Private vs public and board sharing: here here here here here Other: here Best of Luck!max
@Kerstin Weiss It appears it’s been getting some code repairs and will be back on the Miro marketplace soon. Or follow this thread here to stay alert to when it’s back. Or DM Markus as he’s the developer. https://community.miro.com/board-design-60/shameless-plug-for-my-new-miro-plugin-carboncopy-4421
@Kiron Bondale This is a great list. Thank you!
@Robert Johnson Ha! Not really going anywhere… my motive is purely to learn what people are seeing out there in the company IT/tooling decision space … and how and when we’ll see complete abandonment of PowerPoint. I really do genuinely wonder what, other than - enterprise legacy adoption/IT path dependence, and Microsoft dominance, what PowerPoint still does better than Miro. And I’m curious, in what companies has the UI/UX differentiation become so noticeably drastic that whole companies or large teams in companies are compelled to make a value-driven wholesale switch away from it. And, yes, revealing an underlying motivation in asking: Yes, I would like to see less beautiful minds trying to express themselves into cognitive turbulence through the tool of PowerPoint… and more through tools like Miro. PowerPoint advantages…?@Kiron Bondale has some great points. Presentation mode could be well-improved in Miro. I can also think of . . . fonts
@Kiron Bondale … Is the animation of bullets the ‘fly in effects’ or more simply ‘reveal next’ ?
@Christoph Koenninger There’s a clever app by @Markus Smet called Carbon Copy. It appears it’s been getting some code repairs and will be back on the Miro marketplace soon. follow this thread here. Or DM Markus as he’s the developer. https://community.miro.com/board-design-60/shameless-plug-for-my-new-miro-plugin-carboncopy-4421 cheers :)
@Miro Fahmy /anyone else viewing this post: we can only share not-yet-on-the-Miro-marketplace apps via a direct message. Please DM me and I’ll send you the Miro Plugin install link.Cheers :) max
@Peter Galvin Perfect use case for the internal links in Miro.I’ve done that exact thing in a system diagram with a link to jump out/over to the area with more thoughts. Here’s more on how to do internal and external links in Miro.https://help.miro.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017572354-Internal-and-External-Linking
@Charles FriedoHere’s some examples of ‘manually created’ Sankey. And some of the issues with it highlighted. Line thickness maximum. Text under the default minimum of 10 -- meaning you have to create size with a corner drag resize of text element. Not that much of an issue - but kind of an issue when you try to resize a bunch of text at once...--Here we’ve got a decent looking Sankey in Miro. But what happens when we scale it? Scale down? Scale up? YIKES !. . .So… ya, the whole enterprise of data-precise Sankey in Miro is pretty fraught at the moment and limited to small window of solutions, mostly for 1 off artifact creation, premade, for presentation purposes. To that point, I generally end up building out a lot of sankey/flow iterations into samples/scenarios/stages, etc. -- manually making them tidy with lots of designery fiddling, and then stacking them into presentations in a Miro board, whereby the story of the data or the system can be brought to life… but I’d love for th
@Charles FriedoLove what you’re up to. Sankey might be my favorite of all charts! —Sadly at this moment…You can only import the Sankey as an image. Not as data in any useful way. Furthermore, if you recreate a Sankey manually in Miro— you’ll find yourself immediately disappointed that Miro has very limited line thicknesses( only a small set, and they increment in doubling steps (so you’ll have more inherent accuracy compromises). If you keep your manually-created Sankey very small and make the accuracy compromises due to line thickness steps, you can get the lines to almost match the sizes of the boxes… but at that size, you’re so small that text sizes become an issue (you now go smaller in text sizes than the default minimum of 10). I’ll find my self in a Sankey that small dealing with size 4 or less text.—> If it weren’t for these inherent line thickness limitations, I would have built a Miro plugin for Sankey import/live update long ago. Some Sankey lovers enjoy line colors that
@Robert Johnson is really adept at the solutions available in these arrangements. Perhaps he can chime in…
@BossConnect Thank you for the feedback. you’re right - it does seem like a simple “no” would work here. Brevity IS a virtue. And, yet, so is clarity and inclusivity. I do often struggle with this balance here in the forum. …For less brevity and more clarity… ;) I often try to error on the side of ‘too specific’ so I don’t make false assumptions about the meaning of what’s being asked and give the wrong impression of what is and isn’t possible in the app or with the API/SDK. Especially given that this forum strives to be a place that serves a community of people with many different first languages and who have varying backgrounds and vocabularies for things-- I feel it’s important to not make assumptions about ambiguous question meanings and give clear and unambiguous answers in order to be as welcoming and inclusive as possible. To that end, I try also to embed clarifying questions and their answers in one turn - as opposed to just return questions - which runs the risk of no answe
@Marina Thank you for tagging me here today. I took the invitation as a prompt. . . to stop coding and process diagramming in the August heat -- and go make some art! It was a refreshing diversion. :)Dedicating this piece to my newly-found Miro tribe- sharing visions with you this past year has been inspiriting! @Anthony Roux @Jonathan White @Robert Johnson @Rachel @Farbod Saraf @Alexis Luscutoff @Colleen Curtis @Thomas Larsson @Igor Madzura @Sean C @Boris Borodyansky @Benjamin Atkinson @Isman Tanuri @Michelle Pentz @Marina @Sultan @Terrence Caldwell @Scott Stephens @mlanders Optical Nervous SystemMiro boards are the vertebrae of the universe. best viewed while listening to drum and bass
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