Hello there! I am creating a Customer Journey Map. I am using a Macbook Pro. I am fairly tech savvy and I cannot for the life of me get frames to pick up the objects within them so that I can move them all together. I have tried to select existing objects and then frame them, and I have tried creating the frame first THEN adding the objects. Nothing works for me. I have looked through the community for similar issues, but I have. not found the exact same issue. I have enabled the grid and disabled it….nothing works for me. Any advice out there? Many thanks in advance!
Frames not picking up objects/objects within frames not moving with the frame?
Can you try a very simple use case as follows with a new board?
- Create a new frame
- Add a couple of sticky notes within it
- Try to move the frame and see if the contents come with it
Also, how are you accessing Miro? If it is via the desktop app, can you try through a web browser or vice versa?
Kiron
that is a possibility - I’d suggest making a copy of the board which has that template and start deleting objects in batches to try to isolate what might be causing the behavior. I do know that grids/tables can affect the default behavior of shapes put inside them, and I have experienced “odd” behavior with frames nested in frames, but other than that, the default frame behavior should work fine…
Kiron
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I see this note in the Frames Help Center article:
If you want to put frames inside frames and move the outer frame together with the nested ones, feel free to group them. You can select several frames either while holding down Shift and picking them one by one or by using the selection field and filter (please see below).
This is the template I am using:
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You cannot GROUP items in a TABLE.
Ahhh, yes. And you cannot lock objects in tables. A workaround is to group or lock outside of the table and then drag the grouped objects onto the table, or the table over the locked objects.
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Sadly, Tables (formerly Grids) are still quite new. You cannot modify the margins or padding. I would suggest using the “Feedback” link when you hover over the Table and share your thoughts directly with Miro around the lack of functionality:
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I still cannot get it to work - placing some elements in a frame and have them move with the frame. I even had one frame in another and it was moving as one perfectly, but when I unlocked the internal frame, elements of the internal frame would not reconnect with the overall frame. Very frustrating.
It seems something changes in the characteristic of an element when either attaching to an outer frame, locking/unlocking, grouping/ungrouping, etc.
Also, I cannot group in some instances, the “Grouping” icon in the edit menu is not available...Are there some elements that cannot be grouped ?
Experimenting - it is as though the outer frame doesn’t always “capture” and “internalize” the inner frames/elements...
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I am trying to group 2 tables together and it’s not working. Is this something supported by the feature?
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