Consultant Plan - Diagramming packs are not available

@mlanders - Agreed. If you are not handing over at least $80/month to Miro ($16 * 5 seats on Business Plan, paid annually) then you are not worthy of the feature - that is how I am interrupting this.

I mean, really… it’s just some graphics, right?

@Robert Johnson & @mlanders -

My take on this is that Miro is missing out on a great marketing opportunity by making this available under the Consultant plan. Those of us who are on that plan are usually working with many clients and exposing the richer capabilities of such Miro features is an easy “soft sell” to get those clients to evaluate and subscribe. I can’t count how many students in my courses have been impressed with Miro and have decided to evaluate it for themselves.

Arguably, the opportunities for such free marketing are much better with users on the Consultant plans the Business plan. Methinks Miro product managers need to play the “long game” here…

Kiron

Dear community members,

Thanks again for all of the additional feedback. 

First and foremost I’d like to emphasize that we appreciate your advocacy for Miro and would like to genuinely thank you for that.

Please allow us some time to carefully to evaluate all of the inputs and while we evaluate our decisions. 

As soon as we have updates, I’ll get back to you. 

In the meantime, feel free to contact me in case anything else comes to mind regarding this topic.

Kind regards and have a great weekend ahead,

Jennifer

@Max Harper and Mironeers:

So two things:

• Eye on competitors: What are they offering … compare and then offer a near same standard value (even if your product seems to be better) but you should have in mind: We are not alone.
   
• Ok: It should cost - is this offer for all paying customers or do we exclude some customers …
  And this is exactly what happens here. I cannot pay a priceplan for 5 Users monthly … I often work either for myself or doing classes but without any collaboration …
  
  I do want to have this symbols … but not for this price … no matter how great and good the product is …
  
  This is for me a big big disappointment as a user who is one of the most loyal German user with so much enthusiasm …
  
  Ok - I see … miro is a software developer but I wish they’re looking for the needs of lots of Consultants …
  
  Please miro … even we the Consultants need those tools …
  
  BTW: If we have to pay … why not an additional One-Time-Payment and have all additional tools inside ...
  
  Michael Landers
  (I often end up with my surname - to tell the official Mironeers decision-makers how important this point is to me)

Hi @Jennifer Yzelman ,

BPMN because as a consultant we get asked to draw these process diagrams all the time.
 

Thank you for looking into this.

Christian

Yes, @Robert Johnson  - agreeing absolutely The cool is that embedding is working and Lucidchart has much more to offer in Diagramming and the embedding of their chart working like a charm …

• Shadowing of all Diagramms
• Free already created Styles (Colouring of all elements)
• Black Background
• architechture Symbols (Furniture / and more)
• And even more symbols than miro has to offer

This is included even in the free account …

Michael

@mlanders - The advantage of the Consultant vs. Team Plan is that:

• more than one team can be created - if I am going to be inviting a client to my team as a full member or using a day pass (occasional user), I can create a team just for this client and move all boards to that new team to avoid my client potentially seeing boards they should not see. While this could be handled by making all boards private, adding the client to the team and then a project, etc. that is administratively heavy and sill risky.
• and now wit the new Non-team member Guests feature (currently in beta), Consultant Plan users will be able to add registered Miro account users directly to a board with edit access, without having to make them a team member, and for free.
• Other benefits will be found on the pricing page and the plans and features help center article.

Hi @Alexei Barabash, thanks for your question. You can expect an update within the next week or so. 

Kind regards

Jennifer

@Max Harper - I am on a Team Plan and have he upgrade button, but don’t have it from my Consultant Plan.

UPDATE: Marina is reporting this to Support right now :)

@mlanders 
Here’s me figuring out how to even upgrade from Consultant plan to Business Plan… 
Its not EASY, is an excessive up-buy (see comments above) … and might even cause problems such as ‘collapsing’ my teams/workspaces down into one team...(see image below).

https://community.miro.com/peer-support-45/upgrade-to-business-to-get-the-new-features-upgrade-plan-pages-broken-6209?postid=25896#post25896

If you look into Lucid - most of the symbols are free and you can coulourize each of their symbols - this is not possible in miro

The diagrams that you’ll get there are lot more - and everything you see is part of a free version - even now more than miro ever can offer:

• With mirroring
• Colourizing symbols
• Shadows for your symbols

Why wait longer for less functions in miro -
I still use miro but for other functions
I use other tools because they are offering more - as long there are offering more …
(maybe this will change)

But if I would need diagraming symbols as main part of my daily work I would use an other tool because of the flexibility of the other tools

Michael

@Jules Zanetti - Thanks for pointing that out - apparently you are more observant than I 

I was even going to use a page from Google’s playbook and suggest that Miro will likely remove these at some point, but forgot.

Again, this is sad and disappointing move by Miro to take this away from paid accounts. I am just one person, too, and will not be spending $100 just to get a few symbols. The message I am receiving from Miro is that I am not significant enough to them.