New App: Make The Estimation Process Simpler And More Inclusive

  • 22 July 2022
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Hi Miro Community,

 

We’re so excited to let you know that the Estimation app is now available to all users on paid plans! 

The estimation process is designed to help your team predict the amount of effort required to bring a project across the finish line ― often used in Agile product development practices. 

Our new Estimation app lets you add more to structure the process, increase the accuracy of your estimates, and gives everyone a voice with votes. 

  • Create Miro sticky notes and cards, or bring Jira development tasks onto a Miro board to make it easier to estimate, and add design files or diagrams for more visual context

  • To make the estimation process more inclusive, give everyone an opportunity to cast a vote, empowering individuals and sidestepping the bias of group thinking

  • Once voting is done, you can start an agreement session to go through results and focus on the tasks where team members disagree

  • Remove the hassle of manually updating estimates in Jira and sync them with the click of a button

Visit this Help Center article to learn more and don’t forget to let us know what you think once you’ve tried it! 

 

Happy estimating,

Jenny


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@Jennifer Yzelman -

It’d be great if the following changes were made to the cards:

  • Replace 21 with 20 - normal estimating poker decks round up the numbers after 13
  • Add a 0, ½, 40, 100, infinity and coffee cup card

Also, I wasn’t sure about this but can you have multiple simultaneous estimation sessions going on at the same time on one board or is it a single active session per board? The reason I ask is that when I teach this technique in classes I might have 3-4 groups and each would be sizing their work items separately from others, all on the same board.

Kiron

Thanks for your feedback, Kiron! I lead Miro’s product teams in this area and it’s always great to hear from our users and community members.

It’d be great if the following changes were made to the cards:

  • Replace 21 with 20 - normal estimating poker decks round up the numbers after 13
  • Add a 0, ½, 40, 100, infinity and coffee cup card

More estimate types and custom estimates are things we’re actively considering. What do you use the coffee cup for, out of interest?

 

Also, I wasn’t sure about this but can you have multiple simultaneous estimation sessions going on at the same time on one board or is it a single active session per board? The reason I ask is that when I teach this technique in classes I might have 3-4 groups and each would be sizing their work items separately from others, all on the same board.

Much like with our voting app, you can only have one session per board at a time. Would you be able to use multiple boards for this, or is there another constraint that prevents this?

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@Peter Parkes -

  1. The coffee cup is a signal which a team member would use to let the team know that they’ve been estimating for long enough and its time for a break (coffee or otherwise)
  2. Multiple boards could be used but its a kludgy solution as I’d need to direct learners to go to a different board specifically for their breakout team and then come back to the main board. I’ve found that multiple boards tend to create a lot of confusion for learners. I’ve used links to make it easy to go from one to the other but it still isn’t as easy as doing it on a single board.

Kiron

The coffee cup is a signal which a team member would use to let the team know that they’ve been estimating for long enough and its time for a break (coffee or otherwise)

Got it – thanks! The way we’ve built the app also allows for asynchronous ‘voting’, and then synchronous agreement. You can start the process and let people vote in their own time, and then get together to discuss and agree estimates.

 

Multiple boards could be used but its a kludgy solution as I’d need to direct learners to go to a different board specifically for their breakout team and then come back to the main board. I’ve found that multiple boards tend to create a lot of confusion for learners. I’ve used links to make it easy to go from one to the other but it still isn’t as easy as doing it on a single board.

Very clear – thanks!

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@Peter Parkes  The opportunity for asynchronous voting is a great enabler here. Already provided this feedback before but I think that whomever initiates the voting session should have the ability to enable anonymous voting or by username. This way there is a choice. I can see both sides of the argument as to why anonymous and why some would prefer transparency.

I think that whomever initiates the voting session should have the ability to enable anonymous voting or by username. This way there is a choice. I can see both sides of the argument as to why anonymous and why some would prefer transparency.

We’re exploring some options for more configurability here – thanks again for the feedback!

I love this for cards. Are there plans to let kanban templates total estimation points rather than count stories? That would be a gamechanger for us.

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@Jasmine Friedrich that would be an interesting update to the Kanban function in MIRO if it was able to total based on SP.

I love this for cards. Are there plans to let kanban templates total estimation points rather than count stories? That would be a gamechanger for us.

Thanks! We’re actively looking at potential improvements to the Kanban widget for planning/estimating/capacity measurement purposes. Stay tuned!

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