Pen tool updates: palm rejection, highlighter, lasso tool, and drawing presets

  • 3 November 2020
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Hi @Tolya Filippov ! I am so happy to see so much improvement! It is almost ideal, although there is one thing yet which other users might not be experiencing or consider insignificant. The palm does not leave any marks now, but when it touches the screen prior to the pen, the canvas may “jerk” a bit, so I need to put my hand with the pen really carefully. But I am not sure if it is an issue at all, it would be nice to hear other guys as well. 

Thank you for the fix! 

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I have tried to read the comments but might have missed it. 

When using my pen on iPad I would like to disable writing with fingers. (like in any drawing tools) i get dotts and doodles all over

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@Tolya Filippov Hello! So, the update. I have deinstalled and then reinstalled the app. Then followed the link - and all I got was an error notification “no such key exists” 

The link is malformed, try this one: https://miro.com/app/dashboard/?clientVersion=2.71669.2

The link @Tolya Filippov put in has some extra junk characters at the end, like so: https://miro.com/app/dashboard/?clientVersion=2.71669.2%C2%A0, see the %C2%A0 bit?

Anyways, palm rejection appears to work! I just did a quick test, but so far, so good. Great work!

Tolya Filippov
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The link @Tolya Filippov put in has some extra junk characters at the end, like so: https://miro.com/app/dashboard/?clientVersion=2.71669.2%C2%A0, see the %C2%A0 bit?

@Adrian Irwin Thanks for flagging this out, for some reason it pasted these junk symbols, I edited the initial post.

Anyways, palm rejection appears to work! I just did a quick test, but so far, so good. Great work!

Great, thanks for the feedback!

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@Adrian Irwin Thank you! It worked. Yes, palm rejection is perfect now. However, still overshadowed by frequent app failure to start and subsequent reinstallation. It happens way too often, and not only to me - yesterday my student had to reinstall Miro on his new Ipad righ in the lesson, and he says it occurs all the time. Looking forwad to that fix as well!

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@Tolya Filippov Looks like it

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Auto-Fading of the highlighting tool would be super useful. 

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@AlexanderIsUnique I think as an option for presentations that could be a useful tool. I need the highlights to remain for exporting, so that would make a lot of problems for me personally.

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@Lena Shenkarenko

 


feature request: 

- We need hot keys for every tool in the pen tray- (Pen, Eraser, highlighter, color/size(3) )

- and keys for navigating within that toolset (e.g. tab or arrow keys to cycle through items/colors within the pen/eraser/highlighter set. 
 

 

 

Yes! I’d even take multiple pressings of P cycling between the three pen presets. I map “P” to one of the buttons on my stylus (E to the other), so this would save a TON of time. @Tolya Filippov 

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@Tolya Filippov Thank you! Everything works perfectly well!

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FYI-The latest Android beta test link works very well.  It is still a pain to have to use that link to launch the beta version, but so far so good!

@Tolya Filippov Any kind of an ETA on when these fixes will be rolled out?

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Hi @Tolya Filippov  - I got a message in LinkedIn from you (or someone pretending to be you), asking for help to troubleshoot this.  In our last LinkedIn last exchange, you gave me an .apk to install on my Samsung Tab S7+ for testing, but first I want to confirm that it was really you who I’ve been communicating with.  Can you please confirm here that your LinkedIn account hasn’t been hacked in some way?  Thanks!  Quito Banogon

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@Adrian Irwin @Austin Lambert @Alexei Kiselev @Patrick Farrell @Jonathan Whiteman 
Hey guys, we’ve released the latest version of palm rejection for Android devices and it should work fine!
Feel free to share your feedback.

@Tolya Filippov

Do I need a special version or setting to use this? I'm using the app on Samsung Galaxy Tab S6, and it still detects the palm, and moves the sheet around.

I tried the beta link too, it gives a no such version error on the app.

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Hi,

I still have the same issueu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QiBFiKVT4M on my tab s7 with s pen.

Any updates on this?

 

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Love the highlighter tool but agree with the above comment - the option to highlight in a straight line when using a mouse would be a great enhancement!

Tolya Filippov
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Do I need a special version or setting to use this? I'm using the app on Samsung Galaxy Tab S6, and it still detects the palm, and moves the sheet around.

I tried the beta link too, it gives a no such version error on the app.

Hi @Aditya B.

Could you please reinstall the app, it should help if for some reason you use the previous version of the prototype. If the problem persists please send a video of it so we could scrutinize the problem and help.

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Are there any updates for better Apple pen support coming up?

K

The highlighter tool is next to useless with sticky notes. If I highlight something, I want the text to be highlighted, even if I move the sticky note. Each highlight is its own object right now, which means I need to group everything together and it’s several extra steps. 

When I’m synthesizing notes from interview sessions, I don’t want to group each highlight to a sticky note just so I can move the sticky notes around without losing what the highlights are meant to accentuate.

Lena Shenkarenko
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Hahaha @Kiron Bondale – loving the cowboy in you 🤠
@Jeremy Olson Thank you so much for your feedback 🙌 Our team couldn't be happier

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@Tolya Filippov 

I have the same feedback as @Alexei Kiselev, the palm rejection for the pen tool definitely works, but:

  • If I have my palm on the screen;
  • And I lower the pen to start drawing -- but before it actually touches the screen, there is a point that the tablet starts to pick up the pen;
  • The view jumps down and to the right (I am right handed).
  • Before the pen touches the screen, I can use it scroll, but only up and down, not left to right.
  • After the pen touches the screen, it works as expected, just not where you wanted it.
  • Tried it using just my left thumb to hold the tablet, same result.

I haven’t used an iPad+Pencil, but Wacom type tablets can pick up the stylus quite a ways from the surface of the device.

Still, looks like we’re really close, keep up the good work!

Tolya Filippov
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@Adrian Irwin Could you please make a video of this behavior? 

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Not sure if this is a bug, but the highlighter tool lays color over other objects (like hand drawings or widgets.  But if you select it manually you can send to back; ideal behavior would be if it was a back layer by default and perhaps a long press would enable selection in order to undo?   

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I’m having no issues with an active stylus (not the Apple Pencil) and an iPad. It has been fantastic.

I am hoping at some point (and I don’t know how or if this could be implemented, or if I am asking for too many options) that a setting for a “regular” stylus could be selected. It happens too often that my team in the field drops and breaks their active stylus and have to resort to a regular, rubber or mesh tip stylus. 

Currently, they would be unable to annotate anything if that happened…

Otherwise, it has been a fantastic update.

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@Adrian Irwin Could you please make a video of this behavior? 

https://youtu.be/7QiBFiKVT4M

@Alexei Kiselev Is this the same sort of behaviour you experienced as well?

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@Adrian Irwin Thank you! It worked. Yes, palm rejection is perfect now. However, still overshadowed by frequent app failure to start and subsequent reinstallation. It happens way too often, and not only to me - yesterday my student had to reinstall Miro on his new Ipad righ in the lesson, and he says it occurs all the time. Looking forwad to that fix as well!

That's rough, can't say I've had the same troubles.

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