Idea

Ability to create flowcharts in the BPMN language in Miro


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It would be great to be able to use Miro to create flowchart in the BPMN language and optimize my company's processes. Is there any possibility of doing this?


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I have the consultant plan. I was even advised by the sales department of Miro about this subscription. The Consultant plan is for individual consultants. I have always used Smartdraw for BPMN but their online version is worse than Hell. And now I have to realize that with the Consultant plan you can't use this featcher at all. What a joke. But almost every consultant works with BPMN for his customers.

BPMN is now available to Business and Enterprise plans within Shapes > All Shapes > Manage Shapes

https://miro.com/changelog#October-25-2021

https://help.miro.com/hc/en-us/articles/4403634496402-Miro-for-mapping-diagramming

@mlanders

 

This is probably one of the most important features we’re missing and actually a potential reason to not use Miro but a competitor instead.

Which would be very sad as I like everything about Miro. But natively supporting BPMN is a must have in our opinion.

Is a feature like this on the roadmap by any chance?

When you look at how Lucidchart works with fully functional Process Templates I wonder why anyone would bother with Miro. I’ll stick with Powerpoint and Lucidchart.

 

Check this: youtube.com/watch?v=VVkd-jqGuq4 

I would go for lucidchart any day of the week if it was up to me. Now my company has decided on Miro but I keep arguing to revisit the decision and go for lucidchart and lucidspark instead. In my opinion they are playing a different game, a game I want to play.

unfortunately

free Lucid has object limit and not suitable for creating big (or mid) diagram

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Hi Max, would you kindly share with me the installation for the BPMN symbols that you created and demo 5 months ago? Thank you very much for you help.

@Brandon Goh - To protect your privacy, we recommend not to share any personal information such as email addresses on the Community. I have therefore removed this information from your post and have shared your email address with @Max Harper via private message.

 

Hi Max, would you kindly share with me the installation for the BPMN symbols that you created and demo 5 months ago? Thank you very much for you help.

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@Tom Fit  

IMHO, It’s been alluring, for me, from time to time, to think that process engineering or process modeling is the one and only true ‘business design’-  and yet, I keep having to remind myself that it seems more true to me, that the full domain of ‘business design’ is much larger, encompassing far many more stakeholders, users, disciplines, tactics, practices, vocabularies… its filled with ultimately much messier processes that need a blend of agility, creativity and high-usability of the shared thinking tools, so as to invite wide adoption and participation.   

 

It seems to me, Miro has shot for the much larger much messier bottom of this pyramid while the Lucid Chart and other engineer-first tools are aiming for the top.  The result, however, of a power-user first model, is an app that is pretty isolating to just those power users and inaccessible to many others.    

I suppose, while I love the engineering strength of other tools and definitely share some of your frustrations with Miro (and look forward to the coming additions), I would only in a very particular, rare instance, trade it for the camaraderie of millions of other happy active users, who are delightfully partying under the wide tent of high-usability at Miro. 

 

In short- I personally, and professionally, love these ‘hacks’.   

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@mlanders

 

This is probably one of the most important features we’re missing and actually a potential reason to not use Miro but a competitor instead.

Which would be very sad as I like everything about Miro. But natively supporting BPMN is a must have in our opinion.

Is a feature like this on the roadmap by any chance?

When you look at how Lucidchart works with fully functional Process Templates I wonder why anyone would bother with Miro. I’ll stick with Powerpoint and Lucidchart.

 

Check this: youtube.com/watch?v=VVkd-jqGuq4 

Lucidchart has a fully functional BPMN solution, not just images.

Mural haspublished a BPMN template some weeks ago, when will Miro follow?

 

https://www.mural.co/templates/business-process-model-diagram

 

With a more or less good / compliant icon set… :-D

@mlanders 

 

This is probably one of the most important features we’re missing and actually a potential reason to not use Miro but a competitor instead.

Which would be very sad as I like everything about Miro. But natively supporting BPMN is a must have in our opinion.

Is a feature like this on the roadmap by any chance?

Mural haspublished a BPMN template some weeks ago, when will Miro follow?

 

https://www.mural.co/templates/business-process-model-diagram

 

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@Oleg Krutitskiy

 

Check earlier page in this post - there I have posted a demo of a plugin I built which gives you the BPMN icon library drag and drop from the side panel. 

https://community.miro.com/wish-list-32/ability-to-create-flowcharts-in-the-bpmn-language-in-miro-355

 


If you’d like to try it out - direct message me and I’ll give you the install link. 

cheers

max 

Hello!

 

Is any solution for BPMN present?

Without it miro is a useless stuff...

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Hey all, 

 

I love BPMN and love Miro … so I resonated strongly with this issue. 

One of the primary things I do is build Miro Plug-ins… And creating a BPMN icon pallet plugin seemed like a fun, potentially valuable, and easy win … at least on a functional prototype level anyway. Miro actually had an example plugin for draggable-icon-pallet that I was able to adapt- so this took but a few hours.  I hope it might be helpful. 

 

Screenshot:

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Demo Video: 



https://www.loom.com/share/139d557e4ca24f1d81cc9e3f5a8540ab

 

Would you like to test it out?

I can’t share the install link publicly in the forum, but If you direct message me I can send you an install link. 

 

I’m always very interested in co-creating with this community - so if you have improvement ideas for this, or other dreams for Miro plugins… please let me know - it would be awesome to collaborate.   

 

Cheers,

Max


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@Alexander Litvinenko :

And the best is: you can embed the diagram via Webtool and its shown directly:

 

Even if you update your board … @mironeers: This is exact how implementing other boards via iframe should work. 

Michael

O wow guys I found perfect solution :

1 - All BPMN shapes 

2 - Fast suggestions for connection

3 - Import other diagrams

4 - Collaborative editing

 

https://lucid.app/ 

Don't thank)

Does any one found a BPMN service like https://demo.bpmn.io/new  butwith collaborative editing ? While we are waiting the Miro will add this feature

I love Camunda (where we create BPMN) and was hoping Miro might consider building such flow type functionality (it just works without being overly complicated).

Searching for the same, I realized that there is a new template called Swimlane Diagram. The closest to BPMN yet.

also LOVE Miro. Sad to see, it is not supporting BPMN, :-(

+1 for this too.  BPMN contains industry standard notation, which is extremely useful to convey complex processes with minimum ambiguity.  Any indication if/when this might be made available as it would greatly enrich an already great solution.

My company develops software that helps clients to automate their business processes… documenting and talking about those processes using BPMN helps to reduce the ambiguity that often derails conversations about what is actually being done before we implement… and what will be done after we implement our solutions. Traditionally we would be face-to-face with a client, and discuss these workflows in an interactive conference room session. I’d very much like to use Miro to re-create the interactivity of those sessions… but I need the standard palate of BPMN symbols & objects. The workarounds presented here are a good start. I’d like to see the existing “card” object extended and used for this purpose… it could also be scraped to provide dynamic documentation of the process.

Hi. Tell me please, what is the status of this issue?

+1 on this. A template with swimlanes would be a start.

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